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Bup Doctor Referrals

Discussion in 'Detox Program & Centers | Detox Rehab | Drug Detox' started by pinkie, Jan 16, 2004.

  1. doni37

    doni37 New Member

    If anyone could give me any referrals in the Texas area.

    Also is there anywhere on this forum that will tell you step by step how to detox cold turkey with other meds such as zanax,lomitil(for the runs) and any of other medicine for the aches and pains.

    I just wanted to know if anyone here had any success from doing this and exp.with helping someone go cold turkey or even a taper.

    After reading several threads about the sub/bup it seems like you are still going to have to go thru detox at some point.

    I get lost so easy on the board and there are so many different subjects and I can not seem to find where the first post was posted and read from there and go up the list my dates.

    Please I need the help and support and promise to an active member who will post daily and give support.

    I have been thru alot and feel I have some things I could add so others could receive benenfits from my exp. but right now I am not doing well mentally or physically. The depression and addiction is like going thru hell everyday.

    I have been on hydrocodone for almost 9 years and 40 a day only helps with the pain for an hour or so.
    so I feel if I can get detoxed the depression will lighten up from the guilt of that and be able to start over.

    I have many health problems and the dr.'s write these rx's like they are candy.

    Where do I go to find the latest information on antidepressants?
    I am on paxil 37.5...after 4 weeks I felt better but that was in November and now the depression is back full blast and was wondering if they have up the dosage on paxil.

    The pharmacist sent a letter stating the paxil will no longer be available so I do not know if they are going to pull this drug off the market because of all the people committing suicide on it.

    I am new so if I have posted in the wrong place could someone be as kind to tell me where I need to post my questions?

    Thank you in advance and any support or simple prayers would be appreciated because I am all alone in this and I posted once and
    got one reply and I thank you for that.

    I would love to come to my email and there be 3 emails of just someone saying they understand and will help me and guide me through this stage of my life.

    I never knew loneliness and depression until the past few years and truly what the dr. told me was I was killing myself with the depression.

    I have 4 kids and the thought to not have them for 30 days is pretty much what is holding me up. I guess I feel like they will not know me or my husband will not like me anymore.

    I can not keep waking up to this feeling of death everyday and if I will make it thru the day.
    All I want is my life back and back to the wife and mother that they used to all have and took care of everything and everbody else.

    And this is where the addicition started because I could no longer keep up the demands of 4 schools and a large home so of course I took vicodin to help me get more done when truly I was getting nothing done.
    Please reply thru email or on the board. I know I am new and not in the loop of the rest of yall but I would give my soul to get some replies of encougament and to know this will not go to my grave with me.

    Thanks again in advance for any inf. any of you can give me. Any hope and a starting point.
    thanks again
  2. greeneyez

    greeneyez Well-Known Member

    Hi Doni~~ Welcome to the forum.. If you do a search for tips for detoxing, you will find some OTC things you can use for your detox to ease the w/d's..

    You are correct, even with bupe/sub you WILL have to detox at some point..
    Paxil was recently pulled off the market...You and your Dr will have to try another medication.. I believe it was Paxil CR that was pulled from shelves.. A few other good a/d's are Zoloft and Effexor..

    I would be happy to help and support you any way possible.. If you ever want to talk or vent whatever... Please feel free to e-mail me at anytime... Greeneyez1432@hotmail.com
    God Bless

    ~~ Sheri~~
  3. methadonna

    methadonna Active Member

    I could have sworn I had posted here before but I live in Westchester County, New York, am on a Managed Medicaid Program called Affinity, been detoxing off of Methadone for the past 6-8mo. and am now down to 38mgs. from 95mgs and all the Dr.'s listed on the Physician locator DO NOT RETURN MY CALLS. One used to be my Psychiatrist when I was in treatment in a local hospital and here's a clincher, the Dr. who prescribes the Methadone is on the locator and won't do it unless it's CASH, UP FRONT, ONLY. There is probably no such thing as a Dr. who will accept my "insurance" anyway. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  4. vicodinESaddict

    vicodinESaddict Well-Known Member

    This is a link to where I go here in South Florida. I cant say that it is cheap, but I do like my doctor and the office is well known and reputable.

    You can read all about the detox method they use on this website and the fee is $2000 (not sure if they mention that in the site) and that covers your full six weeks of visits. Your meds are seperate. I paid $112 for my first week of 14 8mg bupe tabs. It should be cheaper next week since I will have a lower dose. I didnt try to put the meds thru my insurance, but maybe ins pays for it, dont know....but if anyone is in south florida and needs a good bupe doc, here is one I recommend.
  5. MooseMan

    MooseMan Member

    This clinic is out of the Suboxone business. They've switched to methadone. I asked them why and they said - "because the doctors here didn't think the state was controlling Subone tightly enough". What a bunch of total crap. Hopes dashed again. Getting closer to making the $4K call.

  6. Mic

    Mic Guest

    Hey, it's early here, I 'm trying to figure out what that means:
    "because the doctors here didn't think the state was controlling Subone tightly enough" I'll have some coffee and come back to see if I understand. Don't the doctors control who does and who doesn't get Sub? Or are you saying there are now waaaay to many people on it? Help me please, Mic

    "It takes what it takes"
  7. MooseMan

    MooseMan Member

    That's what they told me. I have no idea what it means. Maybe the docs at that clinic collectively think that Sub should be controlled like methadone. Like you say, I thought it was up to the doctors.

    Maybe the receptionist lady I talked to was confused or didn't really understand why they got out of Sub treatment.

  8. Mic

    Mic Guest

    True....who knows? I tell ya what I think would be criminal, is if they tightened the whole Sub deal to where you had to start going to a clinic for it. I travel for biz, so I guess that would help me get my butt off this schit in a hurry...

    "It takes what it takes"
  9. NTL1675

    NTL1675 Member

    If anyone is looking for a Sub Dr. in the North Miami Beach, Florida area, here is one:
    Dr. Bernd Wollschlaeger
    Aventura Family Health Center
    16899 NE 15th Avenue
    North Miami Beach, FL 33163
    (305) 940-2989

    I found him on this Sub Dr. Directory that someone had linked in this forum. I called about 10 dr.'s before I called this one. He is very nice and understanding. He specializes in Addiciton and is very knowledgable. The first visit is a little pricey ($800), but that includes your first dose(s) of Sub, blood work, etc. You must also stay in the office for about 1/2 the day for him to monitor your reaction to the Bupe in order to determine your dosage. It is a small office that he pretty much runs himself, but he does a really good job of doing so. If you are looking for a dr. to treat you like a person with an illness instead of another addict off the street, I definitely reccommened Dr. Wollschlaeger!!!!
  10. methadonna

    methadonna Active Member

    You can forget the Dr.'s in New York. Either they don't return your calls or they want big time cash upfront and a fee every week plus $6.00 per pill. Here's a kick in the teeth. The Dr. who prescribes EVERYONE'S methadone at my Clinic has the Waiver to do the Buprenorphine Treatment at his Private Practice but if you are a patient at the Clinic, he says he doesn't DO the Treatment. You have to go down into Greenwich Village in N.Y. City with big time cash to get it done here in N.Y. That's been my experience, anyway.
  11. imported_n/a

    imported_n/a Guest

    Sub Doctor in or near Los Angeles? Please help...

    Hi I checked the other posts and did a search and came up empty...

    I was wondering if anyone here could reccommend a good sub doctor in the Los Angeles area? Please I could really really use the information. Thanks so much for your help.

  12. rolfasaurus

    rolfasaurus Well-Known Member

    Dr. Michael Carlton
    Chandler, Arizona
    Addiction specialist

    I had an excellent experience with this doctor...he really really knows what he is talking about.

    -John R.

    "Big hopes in half grams."
  13. imported_n/a

    imported_n/a Guest

    Hello All
    Just wanted to let you all know that everything that kathyrand had said in this post is the Truth'
    This doctor is the best Doctor that I had ever been to in mylife since my injurys started in the mid 90's
    The first day that I met him I was finally able to explain to a doctor whatI have been going through the past 12 years now!!!
    He listened to everything I had to say and I could have talked for hours more! He is very kind as well as his staff! It also took me a very long time and research to find him butI thank God that I fianally did :) He is deffinitly a concerned Doctor and is willing to help in anyway that he can! Thanks and may God Bless you all!!! :)
  14. LEXI

    LEXI Well-Known Member


  15. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    Hi Average Joe,

    You might try E. Duane Carmalt, M.D., in Tarzana. Don't know if he does Sub, however he's medical director of Tarzana Tx Detox (with Methadone) and has a PRIVATE practice I think on Reseda. If he does, you can tell him Arlene Ford referred you. Let me know how you make out. Best of luck, Arlene

    Arlene Ford
  16. opiuman

    opiuman Member

    Best bup doc in Sarasota county

    there was only one doc that was an approved bup doctor a year ago (or so) now there are about 7-8 doctors, has anyone had any experience lately with any of any the new buper doctors they could recommend in the Sarasota/Venice/Bradenton area? Thanks all.
  17. spring

    spring Administrator

    Sub Drs. in Baltimore area

    Paul Davies, M.D.
    116 Defense Highway Suite 403
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (410) 571-2946

    Andrew Donohue, M.D.
    104 A Annapolis Street
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (443) 926-9130

    James Stonewall Dorsey, M.D.
    2200 Somerville Road
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (410) 222-7428

    Chinenye S. Ekoh, M.D.
    OASIS, Center for Mental Health
    175 Admiral Cochrane Drive, Suite 100
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (410) 571-0888

    Paul Giannandrea, M.D.
    Pathways Treatment Center
    Anne Arundel Medical Center
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (410) 573-5400

    William Tham, M.D.
    Sajak Pavillion
    2002 Medical Parkway, Suite 430
    Annapolis, MD 21401 (410) 266-2700

    Robert Alan Herman, M.D.
    Spectrum Behavioral Health
    1509 Ritchie Highway #2F
    Arnold, MD 21012 (410) 757-2077

    Rhonda Lynn Allen, M.D.
    5401 Loch Raven Blvd.,2nd floor
    Baltimore, MD 21239 (301) 332-4108

    Paul Thomas Barbera, Jr., M.D.
    Powell Recovery Center
    14th South Broadway
    Baltimore, MD 21231 (410) 276-1773

    Patricia Andrea Barditch-Crovo, M.D.
    Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
    1830 East Monument Street Room 463B
    Baltimore, MD 21287 (410) 614-1147

    Iris D. Bazing, M.D.
    Health Care for the Homeless
    111 Park Avenue
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 837-5533

    Leroy Crawford Bell, Jr, M.D.
    729 East 36th Street
    Baltimore, MD 21218 (410) 456-0111

    Fred S. Berlin, M.D.
    104 East Biddle Street
    Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 539-1661

    Moira U. Bogrov, M.D.
    Alcohol and Drug Abuse Program WPCC
    630 West Fayette Street
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 328-0126

    Benedicto R. Borja, M.D.
    Psychiatric Urgent Care, Univ of MD
    22 South Greene Street, Room WGL317
    Baltimore, MD 21204 (410) 328-1219

    Kim Leah Bright, M.D.
    Universal Counseling Services
    16 South Calvert Street, Suite 300
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 752-5525

    Eddye J. Bullock, M.D.
    4120 Patterson Avenue
    Baltimore, MD 21215 (410) 764-2266

    Anthony J. Burlay, M.D.
    10 N. Greene Street, 6th Floor-MH
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 605-7000

    Robert Ciaverelli, M.D.
    6525 North Charles Street Gibson Building, Suite 135
    Baltimore, MD 21204 (410) 823-5619

    Risa Claytor, M.D.
    111 Park Avenue
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 837-5533

    James Edwin Crosby, M.D.
    Pstchiatry Associates P.A.
    701 West Pratt Street
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 328-6849

    Orlando Ross Davis, M.D.
    9-A West Biddle Street
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (443) 691-6174

    Steven R. Daviss, M.D.
    6701 North Charles Street
    Baltimore, MD 21204 (443) 849-2368

    F. Caroline Define, M.D.
    Greater Baltimore Medical Center
    6701 North Charles Street, Suite 4104
    Baltimore, MD 21204 (410) 227-7149

    Patricia Marie Disharoon, M.D.
    2 West Madison Street
    Baltimore, MD 21201 (410) 752-6505

    Leslie R. Donohue, M.D.
    Jai Medical Center
    1235 East Monument Street
    Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 327-5700

    Abdel Monem M. Elbeshir, M.D.
    5602 Baltimore Natonal Pike Suite 506
    Baltimore, MD 21228 (410) 744-9100

    Michael Fingerhood, M.D.
    Comprehensive Care Practice
    Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center
    Baltimore, MD 21224 (410) 550-2999

    Marc Fishman, M.D.
    3800 Frederick Ave.
    Baltimore, MD 21229 (410) 233-1400

    Thomas N. Franklin, M.D.
    6501 North Charles Street
    Baltimore, MD 21285-6815 (410) 938-4981

    Christopher Galuardi, M.D.
    2411 West Belvedere Avenue Suite 406
    Baltimore, MD 21215
  18. Tela

    Tela Guest

    Need Good Bup doc in SE FL

    I apologize for repeating this. I posted earlier in the Bup doctor referral thread but it didn't look like that thread was getting much activity, and I don't have much time. I really need help.

    Sorry about my earlier post, I thought the beginning post said you could name doctors and warn people about the bad ones.

    Anyways, I need a doctor to help me w/ Sub detox in the SE Florida Area.. WPB County… or Fort Lauderdale, I’d be willing to drive 40 min for one that's compassionate. I tried Dr. Israel Ravinsky, who I saw recommended several times on this topic, but unfortunately he's no longer at the Place and the other doctors are full. I’m hoping they can work me in. They said they were going to try and call me back.

    The story w/ my doctor inducted me way too high, kept me on way too long, and when I said I wanted off, he put me on the speedy detox plan, making me half my dose every 2 weeks (from 16) and then jump off at 2. I’m at 2 now and am in seriously bad shape. I talked to him today and asked him to let me stabilize for a week at this dose because I’m supposed to jump off in 4 days and I’m scared to death, exhausted, and panic stricken. He flat out said no, I need to toughen up and bite the bullet, I mean, c’mon.. I just want to get some strength back before I hit zero. I’m just finding out how strong this drug is and how long the wds can be. I had no clue. He promoted it like it was a cure for opiate dependence and would take away my cravings when I got off of it. He neglected to tell me the darker side of it. He even told me detox would be no problem & claims suboxone is not an opiate. But for me, this is as bad or worse than methadone detox, and I think it would be much more bearable if he would let me wean a little bit slower. I feel like he’s just trying to get rid of me. And he refuses to give me any comfort meds too. I feel like he’s rowed me out to sea and left me there w/out a life jacket. - literally left for dead. I’m guessing he’s motivated by money and wants to make room for another patient that he can get them on a high dose. (30 patient limit here) Me hanging around taking only 2mg per day takes money out of his pocket. He’s either incredibly dumb, or he’s got ripping addicts off down to a science. Unfortunately, I think it’s the later. I trusted him. I went to his treatment center for six months. I’ve given him enough money to put one of his kids through college. What a wake up call. I’m scared to trust another doctor but I need help. Badly.

    But I was wondering if anyone had any other recommendations for me in case that one doesn’t work out. One who genuinely wants to help us get off of this in a humane way. Thanks!!! Pray 4 me!


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