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Greetings - My story...

Discussion in 'Detoxing From Pain Meds' started by AfroSonic, Dec 30, 2003.

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  1. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Guest

    Greetings everyone.

    I just wanted to say that tomorrow, New Year’s Eve at 9:30AM, after close to 3 years of Oxy and dope I’m going to get my life back.

    Over the past 3 years, I’ve managed to work myself up to 160mg of Oxy’s per day (and/or dope when they weren’t available). None of my efforts to quit or taper have worked, so, tomorrow I’m starting an outpatient program.

    I’d like to record my experience on this board and hopefully get some support from its members along the way.

    Thanks and Happy New Year.

    Sincerely,
    Afro.
     
  2. Rohan

    Rohan Well-Known Member

    Welcome Sonic! Congratulations! What a big change! What a way to embark on the New Year. Oxy's were my drug of choice too, but of course I would use whatever opiate was there. So, have you ever detoxed before? What kind of treatment program are you going into? I am currently in a methadone program (outpatient). But I am in the middle of a supervised taper off it to eventually switch to suboxone, then I want out! It just havs been so hard for me to maintain sobriety,so I am doing it this way. Anyway you have come to the right place for support! Again, welcome, and good luck to you! :)
     
  3. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Thanks for the support.

    In answer to your questions... I don't know too much about the program other than it's 7 days long and I'm told that they will give me something to make it bearable.

    I've never detoxed before. I have gone 24 hours and it was the worst experience I can remember.

    Hopefully this is the answer.

    Afro.
     
  4. Apheana

    Apheana Well-Known Member

    Hey AFRO- I wanted to share a bit of my story, I went into a supervised program the first time and they detoxed me with Saboxone. It was wonderful until I was sent home. Ouch, It made the detox easy but the aftercare is the important part. Fighting those cravings and trying to make it through times when you know a pill os only a phone call away. I am not trying to discourage only to help you plan for the period after those 7 days are over. Good Luck! We will all be cheering for you!

    ***Live, Laugh and Love***
     
  5. sunshine

    sunshine Well-Known Member

    Good luck Afro I love your handle BTW. Be strong and remember that you will laugh and love again!
     
  6. Rodrigo

    Rodrigo Well-Known Member

    Afro, what exactly do you mean by "dope"? That can refer to anything... I do not recommend trying to quit "smoking" at the same time as trying to quit opiates if that is the dope you are "reeferring" to. I have been up to 160mg of oxy *at once*... That was my first major withdrawl when I ran out. I have never been in an outpatient program, but I am sure you will do quite well with it since you have the will power. I do intend to seek one-on-one counseling starting like Jan 14th just to make sure that I don't relapse. However, I don't see this happening since withdrawls are truly the *worst* experience of my life and do not want to go through it again. Twice is enough. Had I known the first time that I was experiencing withdrawls and did not have the flu, I would have probably not relapsed... At least I'd like to think so. Another thing I can recommend is to make your "friends" who are a phone call away aware that you are finished with opiates. If they *are* friends, they will respect it and not let you take any even if you ask... If they do not respect your quitting and sell to you or whatever, they are not friends -- delete their phone numbers or break whatever ties you have with them. For me, I usually had my own, but there were times I had to look to others. These people *are* good friends, addicted themselves, and will respect my choice to quit... Take their pills behind closed doors, not show me any, etc. It was quite humorous to me yesterday... I was talking to a friend of mine on the phone and I said something like "I'm ok for now" and my girlfriend gave me this look from hell and asked "ok on what"? It turns out, I lent this friend a few bucks till payday and she wanted to make sure that she wasn't tapping me out for cash. This friend's husband has some pain pills that I used to bum occasionally. I told my girlfriend that my friends all know I'm quitting... This girl wouldn't try to get me started again. She knows better.
     
  7. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    FYI sfilisko - by "dope" I was refering to herion. I should have been more specific.
     
  8. Rohan

    Rohan Well-Known Member

    I want to remind you all that even though detox is HELL (that is detox cold turkey with no "help" i.e suboxone etc.) you will find such a high, high relapse rate for us opiate heads. I know each time I quit and I was miserable and had to stop my whole life to do it-you guys know how it is. My point is that I would have made a deal with the devil to get it to stop. But we tough it out, only to relapse 6 days, 2 weeks, a month...or 6 months later. So I can't stress enough even though we would be nuts to put ourselves in that position again, we do! The best we can do is plan ahead like we are going to slip and work to prevent it. It is dangerous to just say "I will never put myself through that again", of course we mean it, but addiction is a powerful thing, so have a game plan, please! It is far better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have one. This is not the time to be caught with your nickers down around your ankles!:)
     
  9. Greg Price

    Greg Price Member

    Hello Afrosonic. My doc was not oxy so I dont have any input on the detox effects. But the aftercare program is a must if you really want to quit. I completed my treatment program in an outpatient enviroment. i didnt care for the 28 day stay in house. I wish I would have done like you are doing which is a 5 -7 day detox. But, take this advise. Dont think cuz you are detoxed and you feel great (the pink cloud) you dont need any more help. What you will get from the program is information you will be glad you learned. Also, I was not ever big on group therapy but my experience with it (hated it at first and didnt really ralk) opinion of th that kind of therapy.
    Great choice and I will be sending my telapathic thoughts (if they exist) and encouragemnet to you.
    keep us posted.
     
  10. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Hey everyone. Sorry about not getting back to you sooner, it's tough getting on the computer (my wife and kids have no idea what I'm doing - they think I have the flu).

    It's been 2 days now and except for some mild flu-like symptoms, I feel pretty good. They're giving me suboxone and about a dozen other pills for this and that. Overall it's been pretty bearable. I've heard that tomorrow (48-72) hours is the hardest. Does anyone know if that's the case?

    Everyone seems to be stessing the importance of aftercare - thanks for the advice. I'll get started on planning that ASAP.


    Thanks again.

    Sincerely,
    Afro.
     
  11. cgdg

    cgdg Well-Known Member

    If it's been 2 days now and you're on 'Suboxone' you won't have *any* problems at all...are you certain that's what you have? You'll feel NORMAL once stabilized.

    Is this maintenance or detox? What dose are you on?? If you still feel bad an increase should help...and then a taper is pretty easily done.

    Buprenorphine (Subutex/Suboxone) is one of the more 'painless' ways to detox...suggest you take a visit to that section of the BB for more info! Good luck!
     
  12. Greg Price

    Greg Price Member

    Afrosonic. Clinical journals report a 48 - 72 hour of tetox. That is to say the pain subsides after those hours. Obviously everything varies but the flu symptons typically last those hours. However, your body still has toxins stored in the deep fatty tissues that you need to get ride your body from. visit some of the other posts for ways to do so.
    Hang in there, you have the worst behind you.
     
  13. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Greetings everyone,

    Well, I'm rolling up on my 3rd day of detox/sobriety and I have to say that the experience so far has been very bearable. Other than minor body aches and a slight upset stomach, the only noticeable withdraw symptom was a 6 hour episode of "restless leg syndrome" throughout my entire body (by that I mean every muscle in my body jumped every 20 seconds - similar to the way your leg jumps in the middle of the night). I was told that the Flexoril in my take-home pillbox would take care of that.

    FYI - cgdg, the program consists of 4mg's Suboxone for four days then 2mg's for three days. As far as I know it's considered a detox program.

    I'd like to say one more thing. Before I came to this board I wouldn't have given aftercare a second though. After reading all of your advice, I have realized its importance and have setup a my first meeting with an addiction/aftercare specialist.

    Thanks again for all your help and support.

    Sincerely,

    Afrosonic.
     
  14. Rodrigo

    Rodrigo Well-Known Member

    Afro, congrats. See, the brain is kind of like a battery, sending electrical impulses to other parts of the body. When you add chemicals to a battery, you can possibly end up with a stronger battery. However, take away one of those chemicals and you will most likely end up with a "dead battery". I don't know if you have seen it, but I have seen battery-operated devices go crazy when the batteries get low. Basically, your brain has no clue how to act with its decreased power (chemical) level, so it sends out signals intermittantly to different parts of the body as if running a "test". Flexeril is good, so is skelaxin - just *not* soma because soma can be very addictive according to new reports. Methocarbamol (Robaxin, Robaxicet, etc.), OTC in Canada, is most highly recommended.
     
  15. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Greeting all!

    Well It's 10pm Friday EST - over 72 hours since I last used. Tomorrow marks the 4th day of my detox program and I feel really, really good. I'm a little concerned over withdrawal from he withdrawing agent (i.e. quitting suboxone). However, if everything goes as well as it did today, I think I will stop the treatment completely. I'd love to hear anyone’s thoughts.

    I think I'll be OK, but again, I'd love to hear from someone with experience quitting Suboxone.

    I know that aftercare is the key from this point on and I have already finalize my plans.

    Thanks again for all your support.

    Sincerely,


    ~~ No Love for the Haters ~~
     
  16. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Greetings everyone.

    I stopped taking the Suboxone today.

    I feel a little light headed. I may be feeling a little withdrawal from either the Sub or the opiates still. There also may be some Sub left in my system.

    I should know more in a few hours…

    ‘till then. See ya.

    Afro.


    ~~ No Love for the Haters ~~
     
  17. cgdg

    cgdg Well-Known Member

    The OC's and/or H are gone from yer body...thanks to to the Suboxone. Many people state that depression and lethargy are the symptoms of stopping the Sub...my experience (I'm down to .25mg Suboxone/day) has been slight angst...a bit squirrely...nothing terrible.

    Far FAR better/easier than cold-turkeying those Oxys.[xx(]

    Hope this post finds you doing well Sonic...I'm rootin' for ya from the cheap seats pal.
     
  18. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Greetings again,

    Tomorrow will be my third day off of Suboxone and 6th day of dope.

    I felt a little lethargic yesterday and even more so today (from what I’ve read this is a result of the Sub withdrawal). Everything else seems pretty good.

    I have to say that the detox program was nothing like I thought. I envisioned puking my guts out, convulsions, cold sweats, etc… It turns out that my biggest problem I had was feeling crappy and dealing with the 2 extremely needful small children I have. Otherwise, I could have easily just chilled, slept and flipped the remote all day. Oh well…

    As a reward to myself, I woke up at the crack of dawn today and drove 3 hours to race in the ‘hangover hair scramble’ – a three-hour motocross race. Unfortunately, my buddy (drug buddy) who came up with that idea was wrong about the date so we arrived to meet a ghost town. Oh well again…

    Till next time.

    Sincerely,

    Afro.


    ~~ No Love for the Haters ~~
     
  19. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Hello again.

    It's been 7 days now off the dope and 4 days off of the Suboxone.

    I've been feeling better overall as time goes by but the lethargy still comes and goes during the day. From what I've read the fatigue is most likely a result of the Suboxone (I took a total of 12mg's (3x4mg)). Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

    Sometimes I feel fine sometimes I feel crappy. This AM I was feeling euphoric until about 10AM, now I'm feeling a little crappy.

    I can't wait until this mess is a distant memory.

    I gave away my emergency stash of dope the other day (I kept it just to maintain a comfort level during this process). Good thing - I spoke to my drug buddy on the drive home yesterday and my whole body started to tingle. Although the noose may be gone (almost) from around my neck, there may always be an invisible wire around that part of my brain.

    Anyway, next time we meet I hope to say I'm back at 100%.

    Afrosonic.


    -- No Love for the Haters --
     
  20. AfroSonic

    AfroSonic Active Member

    Greetings, Thanks, and Goodbye.

    Well today is day 8 off dope and day 5 off Sub and I’m glad to say that everything seems back to normal. I feel as good as ever.

    I’ve got my first visit with an addiction specialist psychiatrist scheduled for next Wednesday. I hope to get some good advice on some other less expense aftercare options. Since my family never knew about my little problem, attending a program may be tough. I guess I could always explain continued visits to the psychiatrist.

    I hope to contribute to this forum in the future. Most importantly, I’d like to thank everyone here for all your help.

    I also hope that my story in some way will be of value to others. If anyone would like to contact me for any reason, please feel free to do so. I would be more than happy to help out in any way.

    Thanks again and good luck to all of you.

    Sincerely,

    Afrosonic.

    P.S. - If I knew quitting were this easy, I’d do it more often.
    .


    -- No Love for the Haters --
     
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