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music for the under 40 crowd

Discussion in 'The Lighter Side of Recovery' started by mtgoat911, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. Trigger

    Trigger Well-Known Member

    yesterday, my friend warned me about the danger of listening to sad music but i've been listening to a lot of Elliot Smith.

    have you heard of him?

    he once lived in the exact same neighborhood as i do in hollywood and my house is a few blocks away from the bar he used to get wasted at. the "Smog Cutter" is a total dive made famous by Bukowski who got wasted there before him.

    Elliot had an obsession with Kierkergaard's "Either/Or,"</u> have you heard of it? the book attempts to answer the question, "how should we live?" and describes two distinct views (or phases) in life.

    1) Aesthetic View</u>-- defined by immediacy. sees the outer existence as more important. constant pursuit of physical pleasure that results in a life controlled solely by external factors, that ultimately leads to boredom, despair and a fractured identity.

    2) Ethical View</u>-- defined by commitment. sees the inner existence as more important. Willing to take active control of one's life. defined by critical reflection: able to make and take moral responsibility and accountability for one's life choices.

    I guess Elliot was never able to move past the Aesthetic View. his songs are all about his battle with addiction. one that i've been listening to lately is called "Easy Way Out."


    it's from the album "Figure 8," which has a cover image of Elliot standing in front of a mural that's located one block from my LA home. the mural has since been turned into a memorial for him and i walk past it every day.

    Elliot's life was marked by child abuse, which led to substance abuse and eventually a huge heroin habit. he was a mess, but by all accounts he cleaned up at the age of 33 using a rapid chemical detox method. few people were close to him, but they swore he was sober and recording a new album in his home studio in hollywood.

    he killed himself at age 34, a few months after i moved to LA, and a year after he got clean. no one understood it. his girlfriend left the room for a moment and he plunged a kitchen knife into his chest, through his ribcage and into his heart.

    sorry to be a downer, but i've been brooding over this and listening to sad music all day.

    EDIT-- Elliot's "Between the Bars" is another song i've got on constant replay. here's an excellent acoustic cover by the coolest woman in rock right now, Emily Haines. it's just great to hear a female voice sing this.

  2. Sluggo

    Sluggo Well-Known Member

    Trig -
    just downloaded it to my iPod. its fantastic and its tragic and its beautiful.

    thank you for sharing that.

  3. Wayne T

    Wayne T Well-Known Member

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    Wayne T Well-Known Member

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  7. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    ack. i love elliott smith. janice, download from a basemen on the hill.
  8. Trigger

    Trigger Well-Known Member

    psychedelic space rock


    so far my recovery journey has been amazing.

    on my thread i compared it to Alice in Wonderland, lol. but it's also sort of like the Wizard of Oz. my favorite part of that movie is when the Wicked Witch of the West makes Dorothy fall asleep in the field of poppies right outside the Emerald City.

    this is a video of the Flaming Lips covering the excellent Pink Floyd song, "Time." the visual part is the poppy field scene cut together from the Wizard of Oz. brief and amazing. totally like my life right now :/
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2010
  9. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

  10. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

    I'll just leave this here.
  11. SleeperAwake

    SleeperAwake Well-Known Member

    A tune to kick the arse of your addict shadow self -

    Good luck, mf.*

    *(jilted lover songs can be great recovery tools :) Probably inappropriate if you're freshly separated from your SO though! LOL, my SO was opiates...)

    Sarah Blasko - Sleeper Awake

    Let's finish on a positive note...

    BT - The Emergency
    Last edited: May 26, 2010
  12. Living Free

    Living Free Well-Known Member

    Im in love with this band, ALTER BRIDGE. Their lyrics to all their songs are awesome. Just two of many great songs:

    Alter Bridge "Brand New Start": YouTube - Alter Bridge Brand New Start

    Against the sky
    Streams of light
    Call out to me and you

    We leave as one
    We've just begun
    To find the solace we're due
    This is the life we must choose

    We will make a brand new start
    From the pieces torn apart
    The break of day is before us

    Cast your sorrows to the wind
    Let the highway take us in
    As we escape the disorder

    This desert road
    That we call home
    This is our destiny
    We'll chase the setting sun
    As we outrun
    A life of agony
    God how we ache to be free

    [Chorus 2x]

    We'll make our way
    We'll make our way
    We'll make our way
    We'll make our way

    Watch Over You: YouTube - Alter Bridge - Watch Over You

    Leaves are on the ground
    Fall has come
    Blue skies turning grey
    Like my love

    I tried to carry you
    And make you whole
    But it was never enough
    I must go

    Who is gonna save you
    When I'm gone?
    And who'll watch over you
    When I'm gone?

    You say you care for me
    But hide it well
    How can you love someone
    And not yourself?


    And when I'm gone
    Who will break your fall?
    Who will you blame?

    I can't go on
    And let you lose it all
    It's more than I can take
    Who'll ease your pain?
    Ease your pain

    Who is gonna save you
    When I'm gone?
    Who'll watch over you?
    Who will give you strength
    When you're not strong?
    Who'll watch over you
    When I've gone away?

    Snow is on the ground
    Winters come
    You long to hear my voice
    But I'm long gone
  13. Living Free

    Living Free Well-Known Member

  14. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

    Thank you. I've watched it six times already.
  15. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    This is the greatest Friday afternoon song EVER!

    Warning: completely inappropriate for children in the room.

    YouTube - F**K YOU
  16. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

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    Trigger Well-Known Member

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    AumuA Well-Known Member


  19. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member


    The disease.
  20. Torushima

    Torushima Well-Known Member

    PJ Harvey is cool; Florence is cool.

    Is anyone here into punk rock?

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