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ODR Book Club/ Books for recovery from addiction

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  1. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    Oh, that sucks. She must have been in her nineties though right? Wrinkle came out in like '65, didn't it?

    Can someone with a fast internet connection help me find an online version of the David Sedaris Christmas letter that he writes in Barrel Fever. It's about the Dunbar family, and key words include 'shiny happy five dollar now'. I really want to read that story. I need to read that story. Everyone needs to read it. And I lent my copy of Barrel Fever to a cocaine addict five years ago who ripped it up and freaked out.
  2. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    cant find it in its entirety. sorry dani!
  3. channah

    channah Well-Known Member

    OMG, I don't think I ever laughed so hard as I did while reading this book. I picked it up on a whim for a trip I was taking to Italy. There's a story entitled BIG BOY which literally had me on the floor laughing. It's about a topic I don't usually find so funny (no hints here -- read it yourself, please!!). If you haven't read this one, Danielle, please do. You'll love it. I have a reputation among my friends for recommending depressing novels so I've become a Sedaris pusher -- that way I'm not seen as such a downer;).

    I can't figure out why I've never been able to get through the first few pages of The Corrections. I've tried many times but it just doesn't capture my attention. Has anyone else had that problem? I suppose what I'm asking is if it's worth the effort to trudge through the first few chapters? I always see that book staring at me from my bookcase, almost teasing me. It's next to Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson, another highly acclaimed novel that just doesn't capture my imagination from the get-go.

    I'm really in the mood for a big, sweeping epic a la Love In the Time of Cholera, The Poisonwood Bible, etc. -- something that entices me to forgo all other activities and just read, read, read because I can't stop.

    I love this thread, by the way:).

    Oh, I just remembered another novel I can highly recommend: Kristin Lavrandsdatter by Sigrid Undset. I read it in college (so many years ago...) for a Scandinavian Lit class and I simply couldn't put it down. I'm going to order it now because I'm sure I'll appreciate it even more now. YAY!! I'm so excited. Ariel and Danielle, I think you'll both love this book.
  4. sam bailey

    sam bailey Well-Known Member


    Y'all have to be kidding! Right? I mean, these people are, like, what?, novelists? Houellebecq? Dostoevsky? Kosinski? Flaubert? Proust? Chateaubriand?

    Chateaubriand? Ha! He's not a novelist; he's dinner!

    Jerzey Kosinski? Yeah, right! Jerzey's NOT a writer, he's a Garden State! Made famous in "The Sopranos." And a stage play, a way-cool musical about Frankie Valli and his friends, the "Jerzey Kosinski Boys." **Now, it's true: I might be a little off with the play title.

    Good Gawd, you guys: Poetry? Now you're taking this book club thing too damned far; and as far as poetry is concerned? Fergetaboutit!

    I mean, Books!? They don't have to rhyme...to be damn fine.

    Uh, or even good.

    I mean, did that literary genius, Jackie Suzanne, ever rhyme her words? Did that great, and oh-so-gifted 20th Century artist, Sidney Sheldon, have a damned clue about Iambic Pentameter? That'd be a...no.

    And what about that marvelous family classic, "The Story of 'O'" You tell me: What's wrong with a book that's teaches us, and our kids, about the alphabet?

    Me? I can't wait until the stories of "Q,", R" and "S" come out.

    And isn't this exactly why this "ODR Book Club" was started in the first place? I mean, this book, "The Story of 'O'" really, like really, got me excited. In fact, it, like, whipped me into a literary frenzy.

    And to, uh, to tell you the truth, I actually found it hard to breath as I was reading it; and isn't that the measure of a truly good book?

    Oh, and FYI: When the "ODR Book Club" takes a break, and looks into, say, movies, here're a couple of suggestions: Since we've already studied the "alphabet" ("The Story of O"), let's take a gander at colors. "I Am Curious Yellow" might be just perfect for us.

    Also, as a change of pace, we might want to screen this travelogue film, starring this actress named, oh shoot...what is it? In hte film, she's called, "Debbie". Debbie...something. Ah heck...

    Anyway, it's about this Debbie girl, who comes, brand spanking new, to this mid-American city...and then proceeds to have an incredibly fun, exciting, and oh-so-adventurous romp in, I think, Dallas.

    Yes! That's it! It's titled, uh, something like: "Debbie Does (something or the other in) Dallas."

    Yep, just one more family treat for the ODR Book and Film Club.

    **Ah-Ha! Rescued! Mrs. Sam just invited SB to breakfast. As in now. She also suggested that I bring along 3 days worth of clothing and toiletries...and the phone number of my personal injury attorney.

    Finally, for now: Yes! I am BEYOND eager for this coming Wednesday morning, the day Mrs. Sam, Sam, Junior and Sam B fly to Portland, Oregon to visit my/our (all-inclusive) Bailey-babies.


    sam bailey
  5. BOAG

    BOAG Well-Known Member

    I LOVE this book!!!! Love, love, love, love, LOVE it!!!

  6. teddyb

    teddyb Well-Known Member

    well, how about a recommended movie thread- here's my picks "Rabbit Proof Fence" , "Everything is Illuminated", and a real wacky "Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels" (a British 'Fargo')
  7. Sluggo

    Sluggo Well-Known Member

    The Unbearable Lightness of Being</u>....Milan Kundera.

    my fav book...and my fav movie.
  8. guinevere64

    guinevere64 Well-Known Member

    "In her tiny bag were a lipstick, her key, and a thousand francs."

    Sam, you naughty boy. Get thee to Orly.

    BTW it's "Jerzy," as in "yair-zhee." Spell it rite, dude. :D

    Danielle, for laughs get How to Be Good by Nick Hornby. Pretty a propos of the program, too --G
  9. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    Speaking of language....(I originally wrote this post for G's thread but am posting it here because it seems more appropriate) T, I hesitate to mention this because I know you hated DFW. But man. I am reading this book right now called Understanding David Foster Wallace. It's part of a series about reading contemporary fiction, and it places his work in the context of other great writers and thinkers. The chapter I'm reading is about his first novel, The Broom of the System. (Side note: Dani, if you love strong heroines, you'd love BOTS.) I just really think you of all people would love DFW if you gave him a chance, T. He is all about deconstructing language and ideas. I mean, Ludwig Wittgenstein is a major plot point of BOTS. I almost want to call him a main character, except he never actually makes it on stage. I didn't really understand the significance of this until I started reading this other book, which reads like a textbook on the works of DFW and I am really finding just fascinating. Anyway I thought of you because entire sections are dedicated to the idea of language, and various perspectives on what or who give words their meaning, and where Wallace's own thoughts fit in and where they come from.
  10. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    I am overwhelmed by choices of what books to bring with me on my trip.

    Here are the options:

    Insight Meditation by Joseph Goldstein
    What I Saw and How I Lied by Judy Blundell
    My Idea of Fun by Will Self
    Infinite Jest, Consider the Lobster, Oblivion, or The Girl with Curious Hair by David Foster Wallace
    The Executioner's Song by Norman Mailer
    The Book Thief b Markus Zusak
    The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner
    Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
    Point Counter Point by Aldous Huxley
    Beautiful Losers by Leonard Cohen
    London Fields or Experience by Martin Amis
    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
    The Hunger Games by Suzane Collins
    The Art of Just Sitting by John Daido Loori
    Eight Mindful Steps to Happiness by Bhante Henepola Gunaratana
    Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
    The Mysterious Benedict Society by Trenton Lee Stewart
    Tortilla Flat or The Wayward Bus by John Steinbeck
    The Blind Assassin by Margaret Atwood
    Blindness by Jose Sarmago
    On Writing by Stephen King

    And I'm only going to be gone for twelve days. So this list is rather preposterous. But does anyone have any suggestions from that list?
  11. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    LMFAO I can barely type this out Ariel ... gimme a minute here ...
  12. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    Holy cow it took me a while to stop laughing there. How about two/three meditation books, On Writing, Steinbeck, and Heller? And What I Saw and How I Lied, because I want to know if that is good.

    I would think four-five books would be PLENTY ... and I don't think you want to cart around IJ the whole trip, right?
  13. sam bailey

    sam bailey Well-Known Member

    Hey Guinevere,

    OK. See what happens when a man with serious intentions takes a stab at levity? All he comes back with is a bloody knife.


    Yes, G, you are correct: It is J-e-r-z-y. And, truth is, I cannot, any longer, think of Jerzy Kosinski without imagining him with a plastic bag over his head, secured under his neck with a large rubber band. But then, Wikipedia says that he took his life with an overdose of barbiturates. He left behind, so Wikipedia claims, this note: "I am going to put myself to sleep now for a bit longer than usual. Call it Eternity."

    I prefer Wikipedia's claim, though, in truth, I abhor them both.

    Ariel? Consider, for your trip, "The Sea," written by John Banville. The novel is not only celebrated, it is wonderful.



    sam bailey
  14. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    Sam I can't buy MORE books!!!!!! Look at that whole list of books I have that I haven't read yet! Plus I'm leaving today!!!

    A rubber band? Um. That's awful.
  15. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    Okay I seem to keep getting suggestions to NOT bring Infinite Jest, which is weirding me out. Because that has been my one plan for the past month. So, okay. No IJ...I think.

    So my plan as of now is: the Big Book, Insight Meditation (thanks Janice), My Idea of Fun, Eight Mindful Steps to Happiness, What I Saw and How I Lied (which is going to be good, Dani, that's one of the books I heard the author read an excerpt from at the NBA readings and it was GOOD), and The Hunger Games.
  16. everytimeIdie

    everytimeIdie Well-Known Member

    hi, this message is for dani or any one else who has good recommendations.

    i need a good autobiography / biography to read, preferably about someone extraordinary.

    any ideas?

    thank you for reading this.
  17. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    Best bio I ever read was Robert Caro's work on Lyndon Johnson.

    He may not fit your definition of extraordinary, but it's pretty amazing work. There's three volumes out right now: first one is called "Path to Power", second is "Means of Ascent", third is "Master of the Senate", and a fourth is coming out later.

    Another great autobiography is called "Glass Castles" but it's just a f'ed up family story, really. Beautifully written though.

    Let me think some more.
  18. pillsandthecity

    pillsandthecity Well-Known Member

    Book I read last week:

    Beautiful Boy
    By David Sheff

    About meth addicition from a parent's point of view. I first off could not put it down and cried about the whole thing. It hit home on the endless things parents are willing to do to help their children out and how horrible meth is. Fast read.

    Amy-- Free from pills 1/15/2007

    Hope is a risk that must be run.
  19. guinevere64

    guinevere64 Well-Known Member

    Anyone seen the new book called AMERICA ANONYMOUS: EIGHT ADDICTS IN SEARCH OF A LIFE by Benoit Denizet-Lewis? —apparently a Bostonian, totally-out gay man, and recovering sex-addict who spent 2 years following eight addicts across the country. Simon & Schuster, just released 2 days ago. I saw the excerpt in the "Modern Love" column in the NYT from Sunday and I went out and snagged it from B&N tonight. Looks interesting. ... Anyone know this guy's work?

    Finally someone blowing the trumpet that addiction is the biggest and most under-addressed public-health problem in the country. --G
  20. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Well-Known Member

    Wow G that book looks REALLY interesting. It got really great reviews and there is an interesting excerpt on Amazon. I am definitely going to check it out.

    Here is a link to the NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/fashion/04love.html?_r=2&ref=fashion

    And FYI: The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins is INCREDIBLE. What I Saw and How I Lied is also really good. Now I'm reading The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing, Traitor to the Nation, Volume I: In a word, it is intense.

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