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question for Apheana

Discussion in 'Detoxing From Pain Meds' started by Greg Price, Jan 1, 2004.

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  1. Greg Price

    Greg Price Guest

    Do you agree or disagree with cold turkey? Do you think it is dangerous and ill advised or more of an beneficial educational experience?
     
  2. Rodrigo

    Rodrigo Well-Known Member

    Greg, I know you were asking Apheana, but I just wanted to say that to my knowledge, detoxes from opiates is very *rarely* dangerous, though extremely uncomfortable. On the other hand, detox from benzos or alcohol is quite dangerous because of the extremely large amount of adrenaline released when the use of a depressant is halted. You and I both know that you will *never* be able to taper yourself off of opiates. I have tried that many times, only to have eaten the rest of them to catch a buzz. Buprenorphine is definitely a good option, however, most people seem to get "hooked" on them when down to 2mgs because of the "ceiling effect" of opiate partial agonists. I detoxed with an opiate - Immodium... But, that is not centrally-acting (in the brain), so much easier to give up.
     
  3. Apheana

    Apheana Well-Known Member

    I think there is a different in opiates and which ones you can give up CT andthe ones you cant. I think when you are a heavy or even not heavy but steady Heroin addict it is not well advised or oxi's. (Anything used CONSTANT over a long period of time like at least a year or more- canstant meaning daily not a months here a week here) It is dangerous, there needs to be monitoring of vitals and such cause your body goes on a roller coaster. I have a story close to home- My older sister was using H for about a year, she was not at all healthy with years of smoking crack behind her and smoking pot since her teens and also was a diabetic and not to mention drinker. She tried to give it up (H) on her own and died in her sleep. Medical conditions need to be taken into consideration. My sis was also overweight. The damage done to her heart after many years of crack smoking was probably not a help to her. But then you take a 23 yer old who may be addicted to hydros, lets say 10 a day. There is a difference. Every body is different and every person goes through WD's differently. I remember going through WD's not even knowing I was a couple times. Then again I have never done heroin at all, only pills and sniffed oxi's, I never shot them.
    Now, drinking is another story and that too can be deadly to give up without medical assistance. Then again for some they go through different stuff. From what I understand bezos and alcohal are the two most deadliest to give up cold turkey. I think it is a good question though and I am glad to add my 2 cents. I think if medical care is there for you you should use it. When I was in detox back in Sept. there was a guy that refused all meds. I want to say he was probably 40ish, a little overweight. He did a lot of sweating and he was grumpy but he survived!!! [:p]

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  4. Apheana

    Apheana Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah- Educational for sure! The last time I went through it(after Sept) relapsed after being clean 3 weeks, used 1 week straight and I was sick.. The time I spent high and the time I spent with my head in a bucket I learned that there are things that I want out of life that I will never have living this way.
    I want kids and a family and even that white picket fence that the idia of once gave me panic. So, after taking my head out of the bucket& getting to the doc I realized that I might really hurt sometimes but not enough to throw away my life. I lost my best friend when I lost my sister, she practically raised me (she was 14yrs older) and I didnt want to go down like she had. I was mixed up in all kinds of stuff (bad peopleand cocaine). I used the most after her death I think to console me so now going thrugh this period in my life I am mourning her and my drugs at the same time. YOu think losing a person to drugs would help you stop, it only made me worse. I do not drink at all and was thinking about it. The person in my life that drinks the most actually gave me the avice not to start again. Kind of a warning to look at him, I do not want that road either. Long answer and I didnt mean to babble so long.

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