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Recovery Music - A Bus to Baton Rouge

Discussion in 'Freedom from Hell ~ Staying Clean~' started by peacenik, May 21, 2006.

  1. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

  2. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

  3. guinevere64

    guinevere64 Well-Known Member

  4. lordmarik

    lordmarik New Member

    Okay I know this is for the over 40 crowd I'm only 28 but I love Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, all the good stuff. Now I didn't read every post so I'm not sure if this has been posted. I've been clean for 5 weeks now and this song really speaks to me. Enjoy.

    Johnny Cash - Hurt
    YouTube - Johnny Cash - 'Hurt"
     
  5. shar586

    shar586 Well-Known Member

    Im also not yet in the over 40 crowd (30 yrs old) but close :p I luuuuvvvv that song (Johnny cash 'Hurt'). The second I heard it on music channel, on tv I went out and bought it, brought a tear to my eye as he had just died when I listened to it, and when he first released it, his wife, who is in the video, had just died. The video is great also, its a very sobering song. Puts things in perspective. The lyrics are amazing. Will admit though when I listen to the album I bought with that song in my car, I didnt particularly enjoy the rest of the songs as much, except for the 'boy named sue'- classic :p. Yes, Pink Floyd probably one of the best bands ever in history, period. Another more recent group that Id love to recommend to people is a British band called the 'xx' and their album 'x'. Have a listen to 'crystalized' and 'infinity'. Also a brilliant song 'Radio Head' with 'Creep'. Didnt want to highjack the over 40 crowd thread with recent mucic, so compelled to suggest another golden oldy. What about 'The Who' with 'Pinball machine' which is based on a real person, who despite being blind, played a mean pinball apparantly. (Okay perhaps not a true golden oldy, but that'll do..:p)
     
  6. Here4hope

    Here4hope Well-Known Member

    Boy did you bring back memories...or flash backs...I can remember cutting school to see the movie by The Who...Tommy at radio music city hall in NY on opening day...waited for hours to get in...unfortunately this was during the 70's and my drug experimental time...which was brief cause I hated how it made me feel...but during that movie I was high and paranoid that I was going to fall off the balcony where our seats were. Sorry .....I know this discussion is about songs that help with recovery.....but many from the 70's certainly will also remind us of where we've been. On the other hand....music is so powerful to the soul. I know when I'm depressed I can relate and when I'm joyful ....I can't but help and just get up and move....just today I was dancing across the living room floor with my husky...lol.....
     
  7. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

    [video=youtube;flET2criAXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flET2criAXk[/video]

    Christmas is.. interesting.
     
  8. Trigger

    Trigger Well-Known Member

    do you guys know pete doherty? a british dude... he might be a little obscure because he's not allowed to tour in the states anymore. last time he was here he shot blood out of his syringe and all over some MTV reporters. but-- he has also tried to kick dope a number of times in the public eye, and it has to be difficult. he is generally shameless about his addiction, but this song hints at how absolutely tiring and utterly sleepless it all is. how one half of you just wants to clock out and sleep, but the other (much stronger) half is holding a gun to the head and saying that there will be no sleep, just more medication... it's all in the song and the song is called "A Little Death Around the Eyes."

    death, indeed.

    YouTube - Pete Doherty - A Little Death Around The Eyes (Grace/Wastelands)
     
  9. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    Thanks Trigger, wow, I like that song a lot, never heard him before. Its interesting you put it in the over 40 thread - I think it's quite modern, but maybe a little Lennonesque, I'm reminded a bit of Ray Davies too.

    I hope he gets himself straightened out, he's very talented.

    Dave
     
  10. Trigger

    Trigger Well-Known Member

    ha ha, yea i forgot these threads are segregated here. pete is barely 30, and screw it, i've stopped listening to that sad, heroin chic music. though lennon is an interesting comparison... these days pete looks well over 40, incredibly bloated, and most likely sober. he has dropped out of public view and has not released any new music for quite a long time. i guess he just doesn't need the money anymore.

    but, this begs the question-- who is over 40 and making music that means anything to me? don't get me wrong, i suppose there are a lot of obvious choices... a lot of Velvet Underground and Leonard Cohen in my life these past couple of years, but i vaguely associate them with my addiction. i need to find new music to associate with my recovery. lol, i spent quite a few hours last night stressing over this.

    and the answer has been there all along. one of my top 10 favorite albums of all time, is Laurie Anderson's "Big Science." i am desperately hoping that someone has heard of this and relates. and though it's a favorite, i don't think i have ever listened to this album addicted to opiates, or anything else. the reason-- i own it on vinyl. at one time, i had a vast and infinitely interesting record collection. in my mid 20s, that's the only way i would listen to music and i would exhaust myself finding obscure titles.

    well... i pawned my entire vinyl collection for dope this summer. yea, that was a huge phase for me that i probably didn't mention once on my thread. as much of a cliche as it is to pawn yer guitar for dope, i did it. i lost most of my books and all of my dvds that route. there were a few items i held close, thinking they were sacred... but as you well know, nothing is sacred when you are hooked. don't feel sorry for me, the few items that meant anything to me, i bought back. but there is no way i could ever own that record collection again, and i am beginning to miss it.

    anyway, peacenik, i picked this song because it has always reminded me of something you wrote about last week. that no matter how hard and hopeless things get, the situation will be survivable and i'll get *clean* if i keep struggling towards my goal. it was a good thing to hear. this song is called "O, Superman" and it was released in 1980.

    YouTube - Laurie Anderson - O Superman

    it's amazing, but this was a big hit, and it made Laurie Anderson famous. and she was just this esoteric liberal arts grad that lived in NYC and made weird, self indulgent art. mostly performance art that 99% of the population would absolutely hate. so this whole album is a miracle, but this specific song is incredibly soothing... but also incredibly experimental, futuristic and weird. to put it in historical context, the Iran Hostage Crisis, which was really the first major incident of terrorism, happened that year. if this song is ever mentioned, people talk about how it weirdly predicts 9/11.

    you don't know me
    but i know you

    here come the planes...


    and if you like that one, please listen to "Let X=X" my absolute favorite song on the album. it's just such a pleasing concept-- why can't "x" just equal "x?" why must i go in and define it? in many ways, i just want to keep blocking out all the resentments that supposedly drive me to drugs. let x=x.

    YouTube - Laurie Anderson Let x = x

    you know
    it could be you

    it's a sky-blue sky
    satellites are out tonight...


    EDIT-- oh wow, i just noticed that this song also has a curious 9/11 reference--

    i

    i feel

    feel like

    i am

    in a burning building

    and i gotta go...
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2011
  11. guinevere64

    guinevere64 Well-Known Member

    Bought my husband a turntable for Christmas. I was like, what's the point. We have CDs. But he wanted one for all his Beatles albums and other stuff he's been storing for years, and he asked me if I'd take care of ordering it because he didn't want to fiddle with ordering over the computer. It came yesterday and he had a great time fixing it up in the space we'd designed several years ago for it to be housed. It fits perfectly and looks swell. ...

    Our friend who runs a pretty popular blog for vinyl enthusiasts came over with his family for Christmas supper and his present to my husband was a spray-bottle of his proprietary vinyl-cleaning solution formulated by the guy who runs a huge vinyl-trading shop in town, plus a roll of Bounty paper-towels. "You can only use Bounty," he told us. My husband strolled halfway down the basement steps and hauled up a huge stack of Bounty he'd just bought at Target the previous day. So he's set up to clean his vinyl.

    [They gave me Patti Smith's Just Kids. Which I'm having fun reading.]

    This morning everybody left and I decided to try out the turntable. Riffled through our albums, which are still in his study. Two shelves of them. Surprised to see some records I didn't know I had. The one I chose first was by Kate Bush. This song reminded me of a conversation I was having with a sponsee the other day. Also of the film "The King's Speech," which was entertaining but which I also found very moving from an addict's perspective--the ideas of allowing oneself to choose the person who will help you--reclaiming one's own physical body and decision-making powers. Also the clear fight between anger and fear, which is talked about a lot in recovery. (I saw two films this holiday, that one and the psycho-ballet-thriller, and they were both about the same problems really.)

    Anyhow. Here's the song. I used to play it a lot back in the early ’90s, on this Technics turntable I bought when I was a reporter in a poor state--I went down to the state capital to report on the auction of all the stolen goods the troopers had hauled in, and during the job I bought the platter for myself. --G

    [video=youtube;98rCpjc87tY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98rCpjc87tY[/video]
     
  12. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

    [video=youtube;t5fOvcta3Ws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5fOvcta3Ws[/video]

    Here ya go.
     
  13. AumuA

    AumuA Well-Known Member

    [video=youtube;ATr8too11wE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATr8too11wE&feature=related[/video]

    I don't know why. Just that kind of day.
     
  14. Torushima

    Torushima Well-Known Member

    Frank Zappa is... an interesting dude. Never got high a day in his life, apparently.

    Here's my (non-abrasive) contribution to the music thread: Radiohead's latest single, "Lotus Flower."

    [video=youtube;cfOa1a8hYP8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfOa1a8hYP8[/video]
     
  15. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    A song that to me says one thing - that any addict can find recovery. It's kinda what ODR is all about :)

    -


    [video=youtube;un78xqP9_mQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un78xqP9_mQ[/video]
     
  16. gettingbetter

    gettingbetter Well-Known Member

    ... the question of "what's the point of vinyl" was never answered. and i would like it to be, please. thanks! outside of the raves i attended in the 90s where DJs spun vinyl together, i do not see the point.
     
  17. Trigger

    Trigger Well-Known Member

    WTF!! can't believe i missed this. dude-- you used to be cool. first off, when you listen to vinyl and collect records, playing music for yourself and friends becomes an activity instead of just background. it's tangible-- one has to get up and flip the record, put the needle down, choose another record... it's tactile and engaging... and music will never be like that ever again. add to this that shopping for records can be something close to archeology. you can find stuff that you only dreamed existed, like the time i found a george harrison record from the 70s that was purely abstract noise experiments that predated electronica, but sounded like the future of the past. yea, that one ain't on itunes. PLUS lp vinyl artwork is phenomenal, and crappy plastic CD packaging sucks, and don't get me started on those lame little jpegs of "art" that one gets when downloading the latest green day album... ahhhh! i wish i was born a thousand years ago.

    blah, i'm sorry, i haven't been the compassionate, peace loving buddhist i'm supposed to be lately. i am being tested, and as much as i've been promoting the similarities between humans, the working world is breaking me down. lately i've resorted to this line from a leonard cohen song... something he says to janis joplin, right after they sleep together and talk about how physically ugly and ineffectual they feel post-Vietnam, when it became clear that evil will always win.

    Cohen said-- "they have the power, but we have the music."

    that sentiment is sometimes comforting right now. i wish i could pass it along in a note to my boss. NOT an email, but a handwritten letter on expensive paper, delivered by a bike messenger. emails no longer communicate anything anymore. and to clarify, the note will be written in calligraphy and say-- "you have the power, but i have the music." and i might also add something like-- "maybe i'll die of poverty or starvation, but you will end up dying of boredom in our spectacular society..."

    nothing really communicates anything meaningful anymore. poetry used to be so powerful that stalin tortured and executed 2000 poets for reciting verse while hanging out with friends... unpublished, broke poets. now poetry is laughed at and utterly ineffectual. i have been desperately searching for a way to communicate and it doesn't exist. THEY have succeeded in completely snuffing US out.

    and my little dope detox dream about dropping off the grid and becoming a street artist? FORGET IT. graffiti is the worst way to tell little girls that there are choices beyond just rhinestones. have you ever noticed that all graffiti looks the same and there are several digital fonts that mimic that yo boy, urban scrawl style? soon there will be no need for spray paint, just egos, crack and stupid computers.

    *sigh* i am sorry. i just came here to post this song... depressing, but it's where i'm at. it's from one of Lennon's first solo albums. a major vinyl discovery for me, a kid who grew u in the homogenous suburbs where everything will always look (and sound) drab, similar and stupid... everything is dead.

    [video=youtube;6ZzXg0qYoAo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZzXg0qYoAo[/video]

    remember-- they have the power, but we have the music.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2011
  18. Torushima

    Torushima Well-Known Member

    When I was in high school, I quit my job at a video store by sending my boss a telegram. Maybe you could send your boss a candygram (sans candy) or something: they still exist.

    That’s a great song, by the way. Lennon created that record after going through primal scream therapy.

    All of the individual Beatles' post-breakup solo records were really telling and reflective of their pent-up frustrations: Lennon's was full of resentment and cathartic; Harrison's triple-LP unleashed the glut of songs that Lennon and McCartney had been turning down for years; McCartney holed himself up at his farm and played all of the instruments on his barely-listenable, pseudo-avant garde trainwreck, while Ringo—in typical "playing down the middle" mode—churned out a vanilla rock and roll standards record.

    And I completely agree with you on vinyl—it just sounds better, too. There's no substitute. Do you remember the name of that George Harrison record?
     
  19. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    was it All Things Must Pass ? I'm not sure as I didn't own that one but I kinda remember a cover that folded out in three sections :)

    I'm doing some remodeling in our condo and to get ready for the carpet guys I've got to empty out our closet where I have three boxes full of old records. I have a nice old sansui turntable around here too. I guess I'll dig through them but theres a used record store on 101 and I'm thinking I'll just sell them. All things must pass I guess :)
     
  20. Torushima

    Torushima Well-Known Member

    hey, peacenik --

    "All Things Must Pass" is a straight-up rock and roll record. But DO NOT dump those records at a used record store, good sir, for several reasons:

    a.) You can make more money by selling them on eBay or through niche channels
    b.) If you've got the turntable, then why get rid of them?
    c.) Well, which records do you have? Anything good?
     

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