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The End of Methadone Detox

Discussion in 'Detoxing from Methadone' started by mrs-zebra, May 13, 2007.

  1. mrs-zebra

    mrs-zebra Member

    Hi,

    My name is Anna. I met my husband when he had a million kidney stones and began his addiction to Percocet. After a few years of Percocet, he finally came to the realization that his addiction was taking over his life and he had to do something. He came across Methadone through a friend at work, came home and said, "I got my life back, I want to be on Methadone." That was back in '05. He was on 160mg for two years, and is now on 2mg. We would like to know if he should just come off now, or take 1mg for a week (he's been going down 1-2mg/week when he got to 30mg). If you have any advice for him, please post it. From what I'm reading, he's handling the physical withdrawl well, but he says he's "going out of his mind". Please help.
     
  2. pameather

    pameather Well-Known Member

    Hi anna Welcome
    I am doing a slow taper off of the meyhaone myself. Megzy has some great advice,and I also wanted to add that I am going all the way down to 0 mgs. I have been on it for 3 going on 3 years now(methadone) with a higest dose of 110 mgs. If you do some reading here,you will see that many have jumped off of hih doses,and made it. We have a memeber who has been here longer than I have who has jumped off at 9 mgs,and made it. You will see thatsudukedee (Dee) has jumped off on a 31 mg dose,and has made it(but went through a very hard time for 5 moths,about 5 months) Some went throught rehabs,and have made it for 5 years now and another has been clean off of it for 20 years (that would be peacenik) So many nore have made it,and sorry to say,they no longer post here. It can be done Anna. It takes time,and alot of work. There are also some comfort meds that are suggested here that will help him alot. Like the one Megzy mentioned clonidine(and it is also a good idea to have a BP cuff while using the clonidine,cuz it is a BP medicine,but also works for sleeping some,and taking some of the crawlys away. Hes been on it for 2 years,and thats is good most people here been on it years,and usually the longer your on it the worse it is. He can do this Anna,
    Is there anyway he can join us,and start his own thread and we,and he can keep track of all his progress?? This is a great forum,I have learned soo much here,and came very far since I been here at odr. So again
    WELCOME!! Hope to see you soon ok Anna!! There is lots to read very informative stuff.
    Your new friend Pam
    Great suggesting Megzy!!
    See ya both soon k
     
  3. pameather

    pameather Well-Known Member

    OMG Thats it!! WWDD1! Ha I love it.

    Well hey you gave some great info,and what I said in that post too,I'd of never said it if it wasn't for this
    forum. I learned sooo much info here Megzs,and only here.
    How you doing my friend?? Im hanging in there doing ok,getting ready ti rest this is my weekend(ny two days off from work)
    Good to see ta too megz!
     
  4. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    Hi Anna,
    Well that means he's been taking less than 10mgs for over a month. For that reason, I doubt whether taking 1 mg for a week will make a huge difference either way how he comes out of this, but if he wants to, it may help his state of mind more tha anything.

    He's feeling uncomfortable now, and that's likely to continue for some time after getting to zero, but when someone has managed to detox down through the single digits like your husband has, they usually don't go through acute symptoms when they get to the end.

    Good advice from megz and heather, and if you look in the "Welcome" sticky up above, you'll see a link to a post Arlene put up with all kinds of suggestions about how to survive the post-acute symptoms.

    Best of luck to you Anna and your husband. He's done an awesome job hanging in there and taking it down low. Though he started as a pain patient, you said he crossed the line into addiction so I'd suggest you ask him to read around our site and get some books about addiction and recovery, attend recovery meetings etc. There's no one hard and fast path out of opiate addiction Anna but for addicts, getting past the withdrawal symtoms is really just the first step.

    Dave





    <center>"You know we've got it easy,
    we ought to take it easy"</center>
     
  5. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    Hi Anna ~

    Arlene here.

    I would suggest that he split dose the 2mg for a week; 1mg in a.m. and 1mg in pm. And that's it.

    I'm posting links to some suggestions/hints that your husband may find helpful.

    http://www.heroin-detox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8039

    http://www.heroin-detox.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12992

    I too would encourage him to start his own thread so we can help with his journey.

    The mind is extremely powerful and making the switch from Methadone/addict thinking is the tough part. I would suggest support groups such as AA/NA as an adjunct to the WD.

    He can do this, hun'. And we're here to help.

    Warmly,
    Ar

    Arlene F.
    Exodus From MMT;12-25-02
    <center>"Half measures availed us nothing. The results were nil until we let go absolutely.
    If nothing changes, nothing changes"</center>
     
  6. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    X post, Dave:)

    Arlene F.
    Exodus From MMT;12-25-02
    <center>"Half measures availed us nothing. The results were nil until we let go absolutely.
    If nothing changes, nothing changes"</center>
     
  7. pameather

    pameather Well-Known Member


    Also wanted to add,that we do care Anna!!:)
     
  8. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    GMTA Ar ;)

    <center>"You know we've got it easy,
    we ought to take it easy"</center>
     
  9. sbheart

    sbheart Well-Known Member

    Sounds like your husband is a very strong man, and now that you are helping him and telling him about this place he won't have to do the end all alone, talking with others that have made it and some that are still trying is good support. Meetings, or church, or something,just to keep out of the addiction thinking, We have to have a sufficient replacement for our addiction, a spiritual way of thinking, something that is stronger than ourselves. Keep up the great support for him and remember to take care of yourself so you can be there for him at the end. This is hard for both of you. Be good to yourself, and have a good week. Good luck and keep posting. Your friend on ODR.
     
  10. eyesbrown

    eyesbrown Well-Known Member

    ann are you still with us here,i did not get a chance to read what every one wrote,so i might repeat some of the samething,but first you and your hubby should be very proud of him.he has made a desision to get his life back and has done very well.as low as he is i would find a doctor or the er and get him some,CLONIDINE!!!!this will help him so much wit the wd,and a doc might want to put him on a antid or something to help his mind,keep us in touch and let us know how he is doing,bye4now,eyes
     
  11. mrs-zebra

    mrs-zebra Member

    Thank you all for your support; it's very helpful. Yesterday, he decided that he didn't want to take methadone anymore, and stopped. He says that his physical symptoms are not that bad (even though he feels terrible). It's the mental aspect of it that he has trouble dealing with. I've heard alot of good things about clonodine and hope it can help. He says he feels like his insides are shaking so bad; does clonodine help with that too? If not, what can ease that symptom? Also, for those of you who are done, how long did it take until you felt better?
     
  12. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    Hi Anna & Anna's husband.

    CONGRATULATIONS ON DAY 1 AND COUNTING!:D
    Yes...Clonidine is very helpful in that regard. Also, if he's suffering from some IBS...Donnatol can help as well. I personally think Clonidine is the best and safest bet.

    As for how long until he feels better....well...that's a highly individualized answer. It depends on dosage (in his case 160) time on (for him 2 years), other physical, emotional issues...as well as his age.

    It took me a very long time to get past the acute WD and PAWS. That was almost 4+1/2 years ago. However....I did it....and life is wonderful and sweet.

    For the mental aspect...I used (& still do as a recovering addict) 12 Step Programs. Couldn't have done it without the change in thinking required.

    Can you get your husband to post?

    Warmly,
    Ar

    Arlene F.
    Exodus From MMT;12-25-02
    <center>"Half measures availed us nothing. The results were nil until we let go absolutely.
    If nothing changes, nothing changes"</center>
     
  13. eyesbrown

    eyesbrown Well-Known Member

    i am so happy for you both,the first day of the rest of yalls life,and what a better life it will be,i have also very heard very good things about the clonidine,i think it will be a good next step to do that,keep it up,eyes
     
  14. pameather

    pameather Well-Known Member

    Hi Mrs,and Mr Zebra
    I took the clonidine when I Had a few days off the methadone,and yes it did work,for the shaking,and with the sleep.
    Does he see a Dr? maby his Dr can give him a couple more suggestions if he goes back soon. Also he might be having a hard time sleeping,and another remedie that is suggested around here(and I have used it myself also)is valarian root for the nite time It works well,and also tyrosine,It helps with mental alertness,and depression,that also worked well for me. The only thing I regret I didnt do was like what ARlene just suggested uo in her last post about the meetings.Or at least I would of been bettter off with some counceling too. Mrs Zebra its really good that he also has you to help support him,and I think that is the best help that he has yet. Your a great wife for doing that!!
     
  15. mrzebra

    mrzebra Well-Known Member

    Hello,
    Thank You all so VERY much for supporting me. I decided to kick the meth at 2mg and am hanging in there. It has been 4 days and counting, but methadone is a mistake that I will not make twice: I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now to lose the weight... When this is over, we are treating ourselves to a trip to Jamaica. Thank You again!
     
  16. peacenik

    peacenik Administrator

    A great idea :) Welcome to the forum Mr Zebra and congrats on 4 days!
    Dave

    <center>"You know we've got it easy,
    we ought to take it easy"</center>
     
  17. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    I was there 2 years ago....a gift from my children. They had their mother back....clean & sober. Beautiful way to celebrate.

    Perfect planning on your part....congratulations on 4 DAYS & COUNTING!:)

    Arlene F.
    Exodus From MMT;12-25-02
    <center>"Half measures availed us nothing. The results were nil until we let go absolutely.
    If nothing changes, nothing changes"</center>
     
  18. mrzebra

    mrzebra Well-Known Member

    It has only been 5 days, but believe it or not I feel a bit better already (probably due to the very very slow detox). I still feel nasty though, and am eager to get my energy back, and be ME!!!!!!!! I'm exhausted but can't sleep, diarreah, crawling out of my skin, etc. Overall, not as bad as I expected though. Can someone that has been through this please give me some type of idea of about how long until the meth is out of my system, or even better, when I should feel at least half way decent? I can't wait to be ME again. It seems like an eternity (I'm only 28 yrs old) I should be making love to my wife(NO SEX DRIVE),out with my friends, etc.
    Thank You all for all of your support and help. I really am amazed, and do appreciate it.
     
  19. arlenewla

    arlenewla Well-Known Member

    Hi kiddo ~

    CONGRATULATIONS ON DAY 5 & COUNTING!!!!![8D]

    The crawling out of your skin...skin too tight for your body...the heebie jeebies....did you get Clonidine? That's exactly what its meant to abate. Read the link above first.

    And yes, kiddo...every one on this forum has either been through it or is going through now. All of us.

    When will you feel halfway decent? Well, darlin'...no one can tell you that unless they're a seer. It is highly individualized. You've been on for 2 years @160mg. High dose. However, you're young...and that a tremendous benefit to speed the healing.

    But in the end, the process takes exactly as long as the process takes...for you. And not a moment shorter.

    What I will tell you is that the healing process frequently is not in a straight line. You may feel better tomorrow and not so great the next day. But don't freak...it's natural and normal.

    Look, babe...it's 5 days. I know it seems like an eternity, but in the end it's only 5 days. You can't expect to be an overnight sensation. You were on Percodan for several years and then Methadone for 2 years. So, you've used and abused for more than 5 days, huh? Understand.

    Regarding sex drive. Well...that's probably one of the first things to return. Sleep is usually the last.

    You're right where you're supposed to be. And remember...THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

    Warmly,
    Ar



    Arlene F.
    Exodus From MMT;12-25-02
    <center>"Half measures availed us nothing. The results were nil until we let go absolutely.
    If nothing changes, nothing changes"</center>
     
  20. mrzebra

    mrzebra Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the quick response. No, I'm not on clonodine and probably should be, but 5 days, plus this weekend, could be 9-10 days sober before I get in to see the doc. Is it worth it? And yes, I was on 160 daily but often doubled that by buying from a p.o.s dealer. In the end though, I came off VERY slow...probably the reason that I'm not puking my guts out. I can not leave my house. The farthest that I've gone in months is to my own mailbox. Sorry, I know that I'm being extremely impatient. I'm going absolutely stir crazy. My wonderful wife wrote the first post for me, b/c I didn't have the energy to type. Thank God for her, I'd be DEAD without her. I need to get better and make these lost months, maybe years up to her. Thanks again for the advice, and for listening to me vent.
     

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