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"Wrong from start, on ibogaine. Homeland you give that drug, a bad name!"

Discussion in 'UROD~Naltrexone~Ibogaine' started by roxymoron, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. roxymoron

    roxymoron Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure how many of you happened to catch this past Sunday's episode of "Homeland", a Showtime drama series. SPOILER ALERT if you're a fan, but missed the passed few episodes. Brody, the main character has fled the country and is in hiding in Venezuala. Dying a slow death, addicted to heroin, not eating or taking care of himself. The CIA, brings him back to the States to serve a mission...but they need to get him clean first. I'm surprised that with a quality show like Homeland, they were SO off the mark about ibogaine, and even about detox a bit.

    As brody is starting to go into detox, they take his BP and say it's 70 over 40...IMPOSSIBLE for someone going into opiate detox. Your blood pressure rises it doesn't drop. But more importantly, the use of ibogaine. They state it's outlawed in the US because of it's DANGEROUS side effects of mind bending, violent hallucinations. WRONG...it's outlawed under the same guidelines as all hallucinagenic drugs in the US. The reason dates back to the governments fear of the counter culture and free thinking in the late 60s. It's not an acid trip, it puts you into a dreamlike state. They had Brody standing full on his feet, strong as a bull, staring at a delusion of a soldier in his room. WRONG. When you've had a flood dose of Ibogaine, you suffer from ataxia, the inability to walk, and all muscle coordination is off. This of course, is only temporary as the drug does it's affect.

    He proceeds to "flip out" smash a chair and repeatedly stab himself in the arm with the broken wood, ripping his arm open. WRONG. First, he'd have difficulty getting out of the bed without assistance, let alone fly into a rage. PTSD or no PTSD, The saddest thing about this incorrect portrayal is that addicts who may consider ibogaine as an aid in fighting the addiction, may actually BELIEVE that this is normal, it's far from normal. Watch any youtube video of an addict on an ibogaine trip and see for yourself. Granted, it's not Eurphoric in the slightest. It's utterly exhausting, but once you get through it. LIFE is waiting for you at the other side. It's not a magic bullet. In the show it said it "cures addiction"...it does not. What it does do, is it stops detox dead in it's tracks, and you have a 20 hour trip while your opiate receptors are reset. Of course, you're weak for a few weeks after it's over and you need to have aftercare in place to begin your life again, like any other detox. However, you do have the helping hand of noribogaine which is what the liver converts the structure into. Noribogaine is proven to have anti depressant qualities, and stays in your system for up to 3 months. During which time, is the window to rebuild your life. You will still have cravings, but that's the point of aftercare, to learn how to deal with them.

    Anyone interested, should look into it. It's expensive, and also illegal in the us. But for those of us who are chronic relapsers...It's a fantastic weapon to get you through detox quickly, almost painlessly, and stat living your life again. Shame on the writers of Homeland for not doing their HomeWORK!!!
  2. Rainier

    Rainier Well-Known Member

    Just stopped in for the first time in quite a while, and saw this. Good to see ya! Sounds like you're doing well, glad to hear that.

    I haven't seen Homeland in a long time, but this sounds pretty lame. They could at least get their facts right. And I'll just add my voice to yours in stating that used correctly, ibogaine can be a safe and incredibly effective treatment. I've certainly never had any regrets.
  3. bolt

    bolt Well-Known Member

    My thought are that ANYTHING that will give an addict a chance to get clean is something we need to bring into the light. I have not watched this television show but I do know that addicts do not have many options. It is a shame that this negative propaganda has been spread . I do remember shopping for ibogaine . What prevented me from using it was the fact that I had no reliable person to monitor me. The point is , If I was going to use it I am sure many more people have considered the option. negative publicity can not be a good thing...I am sure bonita will have some feedback...
  4. Bonita

    Bonita Well-Known Member

    I've been so busy and sorry I missed this. I've had the privledge to wittiness many treatments....NEVER seen a negative outcome or experience. I've seen a few that have severe snxiety get scared but easy to reassure they are okay. Most important is to have a well trained provider, calm setting and a provider who knows their limits. Sad thing due to legal status too many drawn into this work has no business being involved.

    Be wise, listen to your gut when seeking.

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